Imam to Hannity: Convert-Or-Die Caliphate 'Coming to You in America,' 'You Don't Have a Choice'
Islamic imam Anjem Choudary from London told Sean Hannity last night in an explosive 11-minute interview: "You have no choice, Sharia law is coming to a place near you" and denied reports that Christians were being forced to 'convert or die' in Iraq, or that the Islamic State had driven Yazidis to Mount Sinjar.
Choudary even went so far as to say that reports to the contrary were: "a complete pack of lies in order to vilify the Islamic State. And by the way, there is nothing called ISIS anymore, it is a Caliphate... Secondly, Christians are actually queuing up to come back into Mosul because they realized the life under the Sharia is much better than the Nouri al-Maliki regime."
Hannity accused Choudary of writing his own history. "You're not being honest," he said.
In a back-and-forth, Choudary admitted flatly, "We're not with America, definitely - so we're with the terrorists."
"Do you support the concept of an Islamic caliphate - 'convert or die'?" asked Hannity.
"You don't have a choice," he said. "It's coming to you in America."
Hannity asked Choudary about the treatment of women in Islam, to which Choudary replied that, "Women are not slabs of meat in Islam."
"Should women be stoned to death if they commit adultery?" asked Hannity.
"Both men and women, if they are witnesses... of course they will be punished," said Choudary.
"Should gay people be stoned to death?" Hannity rejoined.
"Well, homosexuality and bestiality and pedophilia, I think they are your way of life... I believe they are legal in America. You can have a relationship with just about anyone you want [in America;] in Islam, God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve."
"So, should gay people be stoned to death?"
"In the Islamic State, people should not be doing this relationship in public," Choudary answered. "If they do, then they will be punished, of course."
Hannity: "How about in Saudi Arabia, women can't drive and can't be seen in public with men they're not related to, under Sharia; do you agree with that?"
Choudary: "Well I believe women have a permit to drive if they want to but at the end of the day, the Khalifa will ..."
"No they don't, they have no choice," said Hannity, at which point the two devolved into a shouting match about Saudi Arabia, Israel's use of rockets in Gaza, and Hannity said: "You support radical Islamists; you support the Caliphate; you support Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, ISIL; you support Al Qaeda, you once said about 9/11 you were very clear that you were on Team Bin Laden, not Team Obama; so you supported what happened on 9/11 and you said it was a good thing..."
Choudary smiled smugly and repeated, "Yeah."
Hannity: "I just want America to have an opportunity to see you for who you are, you are the enemy of free people..."
Choudary: "I'm the enemy of your policies... I'm the enemy of people oppressing... of injustice. We can talk over each other..."
Hannity shouted: "I don't want Sharia law, and neither does anyone in Great Britain..."
Choudary: "Well, you won't have any choice; it's coming to a place near you, it's coming to a place near you."
Hannity: "So you're threatening to come and get me? Is that what you're saying?"
Choudary: "I'm saying, Sharia will be implemented in the whole world one day. That's the message of Mohammed."
Hannity: "Thank you for answering my question. You want a world-wide caliphate."
Choudary: "Of course we do, insh'Allah, of course we do, and this has been promised by the Messenger Mohammed."
Hannity: "And infidels should be destroyed and done with?"
Choudary: "You will liberated from the shackles of man-made law."
This slip-of-the-mask by the imam (who claims to be moderate) Choudary is telling - especially given reports that Abdel Bary, the British rapper accused of beheading Foley, became radicalized at Choudary's mosque. Choudary denied this during Hannity's interview. Watch the full interview here: