(CNSNews.com) - Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden said at Tuesday's debate he's "totally opposed to defunding police officers," but he does like the idea of pairing psychologists or psychologists with officers "to keep them from having to use force."
Biden was responding to a question from debate moderator Chris Wallace, who asked him about a recommendation from the Biden-Bernie Sanders task force to "re-imagine policing."
"First of all, what does re-imagining policing mean...and do you support the Black Lives Matter call for community control of policing?" Wallace asked Biden:
Look, what I support are the police having the opportunity to deal with the problems they face, and I'm totally opposed to defunding the police offices. As a matter of fact, police, local police, the only one defunding -- in his budget calls for a $400-million cut in local law enforcement assistance.
They need more assistance. They need when they show up for a 9-11 call to have someone with them as a psychologist or psychiatrist to keep them from having to use force and be able to talk people down. We have to have community policing like we had before where the officers get to know the people in the communities. That's when crime went down, it didn't go up. It went down. And so we have to be--
Trump interrupted, insisting that Biden is "talking about defunding the police."
The two began arguing about who has the support of law enforcement.
Earlier, Biden promised to bring more "transparency" to policing, and to convene a White House summit "to work this out."
There's systemic injustice in this country, in education and work and in law enforcement and the way in which it's enforced," Biden said:
But look, the vast majority of police officers are good, decent, honorable men and women. They risk their lives every day to take care of us, but there are some bad apples. And when they occur, when they find them, they have to be sorted out. They have to be held accountable. They have to be held accountable.
And what I'm going to do as President of the United States is call together an entire group of people at the White House, everything from the civil rights groups, to the police officers, to the police chiefs, and we're going to work this out. We're going to work this out.
So we changed the way in which we have more transparency, in when these things happen. These cops aren't happy to see what happened to George Floyd. These cops aren't happy to see what happened to Breonna Taylor. Most don't like it, but we have to have a system where people are held accountable when—
And by the way, violence in response is never appropriate, never appropriate. Peaceful protest is, violence is never appropriate.