Sen. Graham: If Senate Seeks Witnesses, 'We Are Going to Throw the Country Into Chaos'

By Susan Jones | January 27, 2020 | 6:07am EST
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) (Photo by NICHOLAS KAMM/AFP via Getty Images)
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) (Photo by NICHOLAS KAMM/AFP via Getty Images)

( - If the Senate subpoenas the witnesses that House Democrats are demanding (but didn't wait for), "then we are going to throw the country into chaos," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) told Fox News's Mario Bartiromo on Sunday.

Well, if we seek witnesses, then we are going to throw the country into chaos. We either stop the trial to go to court to allow the president to litigate executive privilege, or we destroy it ourselves.

Here is what I think. I think he is going to get acquitted. Mueller came after him for two years. There was no there, there. He was stronger after Mueller. He is going to get acquitted because this has been a railroad job by the House.

He is going to be stronger after impeachment than he was after Mueller. He is now the prohibitive favorite, in my view, to get reelected. And this is the boomerang party. Every time they go after Trump, it hurts them. They throw rocks at Trump, they get hit.

Mueller investigates Trump. What happens? The FBI and the Department of Justice falls apart. They try to accuse Trump of corruption in the Ukraine, and we find out that conflicts of interest by Joe Biden really stink.

Sen. Graham said he has enough information to acquit Trump without hearing from witnesses.

"But here's what I have never seen before," Graham continued:

I'm not Perry Mason, but I have done my fair share of trials in the military and civilian world. Never in my life have I started the trial asking the following of the judge or the jury: Do you mind calling witnesses now that I chose not to call before? Do you mind seeking evidence that I chose not to seek?

Because I want you to do it, because if I had called Bolton and Mulvaney in the House, the president would have gone to court to exercise executive privilege. And I didn't want him to do that, because I couldn't impeach him before Christmas if we had to deal with this thing called the court.

So, I am stunned to hear from the House managers that they want the Senate to call witnesses now they could have called before.

And they're putting us in the box of destroying executive privilege or delaying the trial.

The reason they didn't pursue Bolton or Mulvaney or anybody else is because any president would say, this is the core of my national security team. I'm going to go to court, like Nixon and like Clinton did.

They decided not to give the president a chance to go to court. And they're warning us now to call these witnesses. What do we do? Delay the trial, so the president can go to court?

Or do we, as the Senate, destroy the president's ability to go to court? A bad spot to be in, in the Senate.

Graham, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said he plans to "do oversight of the Bidens" after the impeachment trial is over:

"We will do oversight of the Bidens to give the vice president the scrutiny that the president has had regarding the Ukraine that has yet to be had."


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