McCarthy Echoes Turley: The Only Abuse of Power Is What Dems Are Doing

Susan Jones | December 5, 2019 | 6:02am EST
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House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) (Photo by BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP via Getty Images)
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) (Photo by BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP via Getty Images)

( - "The hearing was so boring today, even Nadler fell asleep," House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said about Wednesday's hearing of the House Judiciary Committee, chaired by Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.).

The thing you have to remember, they (Democrats) have no proof, so they turned to professors. And these professors are liberal Democrat donors. It's unbelievable.

But I think (Republican witness and George Washington Law School Professor Jonathan) Turley said it best, at the end of the day -- and remember, he's a constitutional expert. The only abuse of power is what they're doing. If they move forward on this, that's the constitutional crisis. The abuse of power that you just mentioned that Adam Schiff is doing, but more importantly, what the Democrats are doing, trying to bring the president forward on impeachment...

In his testimony to the House Judiciary Committee Wednesday, Turley -- not a Trump supporter -- said: "I am concerned about lowering impeachment standards to fit a paucity of evidence and an abundance of anger. I believe this impeachment not only fails to satisfy the standard of past impeachments but would create a dangerous precedent for future impeachments."

Turley was particularly concerned about the obstruction charge Democrats have leveled against Trump because he has refused to honor congressional subpoenas for witnesses and testimony:

"The record does not establish obstruction in this case," Turley said.

"The theory being put forward is that President Trump obstructed Congress by not turning over material requested by the committee." Turley noted that President Trump has instead turned to the courts. "He is allowed to do that. We have three branches, not two."

But Democrats are not waiting for the courts to rule on whether Trump must turn over the requested materials.

Turley called it a "perfect storm": "You set an incredibly short (time) period, demand a huge amount of information, and when the President goes to court, you then impeach."

"I can't emphasize this enough, and I will say it just one more time," Turley continued. "If you impeach a President, if you make a high crime and misdemeanor out of going to the courts, it is an abuse of power, it is your abuse of power. You are doing precisely what you are criticizing the President for doing. We have a third branch that deals with conflicts of the other two branches, and what comes out of there and what you do with it is the very definition of legitimacy."

Rep. McCarthy, asked by Sean Hannity where Democrats will go from here, said he's "not sure."

"I had a few Democrats turn to me. I had one particular one turn to me and say, if they follow through on this, you guys will become the majority. They are nervous. You found Democrats in safe seats talking (about) moving to censure. But their base will never allow them to do this. It proves that they already had this written out. Then they came back to try to find if they could find something.

"Adam Schiff dislikes this president so much he will do anything. He will lie, he'll use his power beyond control. Anything he can do...He'll go after anybody if they stand up to him,"  McCarthy said.

McCarthy said Republicans are united in their stand against impeachment on such flimsy grounds, and he noted that "the only bipartisan vote inside of this house has actually been to stop this impeachment."


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